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posted on 28-6-2010 at 06:28 AM
Stealth Rollcall
So we ate mid way through 2010, it's been a while since I made my subscripton to stealth mag (one of the lucky few to fork out on the last issue as for the forum I look back to a few years ago, these pages were a buzz of
local and international hiphop goodness, there was a real comunity feeling, for me a gateway into a scene of awesome music and I got to meet some real
nice ppl. Which leads me onto my question. Who is still around? Is there a new digital portal that the masses have migrated to or have people just
moved on from the scene all together.
In any way hope you are all well.
Peace
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As I said 6 months ago to me it became and still is nothing more than some kind of online "trading post" here and has become more and more so - I
personally didn't sign up here for that.
Still have an occasional look (once every couple weeks if that) for a couple minutes but then all i ever see are the usual ads and crap for
someone's new mix/track/EP/radio show/gig blah blah and i'm like oh well why do i even bother to look here anymore.
I think it is very much a distant shadow of its former self and I think it won't really change. You might get a few posts from people lurking in the
shadows (like me) prompted by a topic like this but then give it a week or two and it will go back to the lifeless Hip Hop Classifieds that it's
become.
It's a shame but it's not the first great forum to die off ...
"Rappers always talking about back to the old school. You never shoulda left the old school fool."
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posted on 28-6-2010 at 07:43 PM
Good to read you all have many of you found a replacement forum? Two of
my other favourite fourms seem to have gone the way of the wind too
www.cultureuniversal.com RIP
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posted on 28-6-2010 at 08:35 PM
Maybe everyone has moved on to facebook, although it isn't the same as a forum. I think this forum needs more members to keep vibrant but if people
don't join or don't post then we can't do much about that. I look at this forum everyday but I don't post much, or if I do post it's usually a
short response. I don't visit any other hip-hop forum.
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posted on 29-6-2010 at 07:19 AM
And on a side note is there a new glossy that dose what stealth did? Peak street was pretty good but I have not seen it since issue 2. I figure that
when stealth was in publication it filled the fire for convo. And was exciting to be involved, that could be another reason for the wind down in
members and lack of involved posts. I still apriciate when people post mixes, shows (when ever I make it out) and album release info. But have been
wondering where that feeling of comunity went. It was a great mix of old school heads dropping science, up n comers bringing energy and new flavour,
the fans casual to hard core filtering info onto these pages, artists posting direct (there was plenty of times where you would hear it first at
stealth), people from each element.....
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posted on 30-6-2010 at 08:54 PM
Yeah, I think the innermet has moved on since the Stealthmag forum's heyday. Most msg boards are down on numbers, fbook and twitter are taking up
people's online time. Also I think aus hip hop has changed a bit in the last few years, new fans are gen-y-ers and msg boards are a bit dated. Plus
they tend to be less about digging deep into the culture, they like what's 'current', and this forum's strength was always in the depth of
culture.
But yeah, I got into the syd scene through here, and met lots of cool people too. At least the offline scene is still kicking.
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posted on 1-7-2010 at 05:47 PM
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... gen-y-ers and msg boards are a bit dated. Plus they tend to be less about digging deep into the culture, they like what's
'current'
I think this is a fair comment. I saw a fairly well known australian rapper ask on twitter about what Tribe Called Quest songs he might know apart
from Can I Kick It? Another very well known australian rapper i heard didn't know of any Jeru songs when the topic came up once. Both Gen Y-ers as
far as I know.
To me this seems pretty crazy but i'm not sure if it really matters. What do you guys think- is a good knowledge of hip hop history
essential to create good hip hop?
To me Drake seems like a rapper who is not influenced by much rap pre-Kanye. The little i've heard of his music i haven't really liked.
Then again Lupe's lyrics i don't mind (beats is another story) and i feel like he comes from the same generation of rappers. I remember he copped
some flack for messing up the lyrics at a Tribe tribute a few years ago.
To know your future is to know your past? What do the remaining old bastards around hear think? Does our opinion matter?
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posted on 1-7-2010 at 06:26 PM
Good comments from S&RO and others here. My posting on Stealth has drifted as my general interest in hip-hop has waned a little over the last few
years.
I think the generational comments certainly do account for some of the state of things. Those comments about current rappers not knowing Jeru/ATCQ is
prettty crazy to me because I grew up with the firm belief that hip-hop required a historical view, appreciation, knowledge, etc. Tp me the whoel
basis of hip-hop in past music made it essential. But as we all know, sampling has quickly become far less central to the creation of the music, and
I think that shift alone has probably assisted a new generation of hip-hop fans approach and embrace the culture in a very different way to us late
20s / early 30s 'kids.'
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posted on 1-7-2010 at 08:17 PM
I think an important factor is how people access music these days. The instant gratification of the download and the ease of the hot link.
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posted on 1-7-2010 at 09:17 PM
I'm going to generalise a bit, and I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but I don't like Gen Y.
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posted on 2-7-2010 at 08:39 AM
I'd guess about 15 seconds......
To answer the original question I still check in about every morning or so, nice way to ease into the work day. The fact notihings happening here
probably just means I get more work done, earlier. I agree with Czech - sick of those who are only on for spamming. Often I see theheadings under
'todays posts' and just close the browser.
Would like to see this a bit more vibrant again, but things change and people move on.
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posted on 2-7-2010 at 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Random
I think an important factor is how people access music these days. The instant gratification of the download and the ease of the hot
link.
Couple this with the ease of recording music, and this means that any shit cunt with a couple of bucks can record anything and have it accessed by a
large audience, quickly and cheaply.
This is why there's so much shit music out there and, not meaning to speak on his behalf, but possibly why kinetic, like me, has lost interest. It's
all sounding rather homogenous.
Also, I've never been particularly interested in hardcore hip hop but when fruits (as Royce would say), start having face paint parties and calling
it hip hop...i'm out.
We used to have a community here, where you'd see each other n say hi, have a beer whatever, and I still would with the cats I've met (hung out with
Tone2004 in Barcelona about a month back, for example), but I think whoever said social networking sites have a lot to to with the disintegration of
message boards are also spot on.
There's not really a central 'meeting point' on those kind of sites I guess. You'd be picking random people out of a 'group' and be like "Hi,
you don't know me, and I'm not a queer or anything, but wanna grab a beer at the next gig?" - just seems odd really.
If someone said do you need to know hip hop history to be a good mc? probably not. But then you're not a real hip hop head, just a cunt that can rap
- and I don't really want to know you based on that alone.. And that doesn't mean that if you are a 'real' hip hop fan, that you can automatically
make good music, either.
All getting old, getting jaded.
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posted on 2-7-2010 at 03:08 PM
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but when fruits (as Royce would say), start having face paint parties and calling it hip hop...i'm out.
"Hi, you don't know me, and I'm not a queer or anything, but wanna grab a beer at the next gig?" - just seems odd really.
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posted on 2-7-2010 at 04:35 PM
all the points everyone has raised are real valid..
I think another reason is because Mark, as much as we all love the dude, really hasn't had the time to make this place a destination like it used to
be. There are a whole bunch of younger hip hop cats who don't even know this board exists.
well f*ck it - we're still here, and I want to play some gad damn hip hop! Tonight! somewhere!!
Have i just arrived at the death bed or the wake or the funeral.
Does it really die that easily? I hope not. In my short time here I've learned a bit and its been a mostly enjoyable experience.
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posted on 6-7-2010 at 09:37 PM
i have a sticky beak every now and then...remember the times, get a little stiffy and im off again
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posted on 7-7-2010 at 09:18 AM
YO!
Haven't been here in a while but like most of y'all have said,facebook & twitter is pretty much taken over.
It's a shame though cause this place was like a Hip Hop H.Q. for me & others. I guess things have to change & evolve.
As for the new whipper snappers, they are quite mixed.
Some embrace the culture & it's history & it shows in their music.
Others come with a new direction which can be hit or miss.
Others are just too fruity or left field & they make Hip Hop look like a joke.
Call me jaded or bitter but that's how it is.
No matter what culture you belong to, if you don't know it's history or principles, then you're just a dickrider, plain & simple.
I'm a stay doing doing my thing & stand for what i believe in.
Most of the cats on this board know the deal & respect to all of you.
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posted on 28-6-2010 at 06:28 AM
as for the forum I look back to a few years ago, these pages were a buzz of
local and international hiphop goodness, there was a real comunity feeling, for me a gateway into a scene of awesome music and I got to meet some real
nice ppl. Which leads me onto my question. Who is still around? Is there a new digital portal that the masses have migrated to or have people just
moved on from the scene all together. 
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posted on 28-6-2010 at 08:13 AM
have many of you found a replacement forum? Two of
my other favourite fourms seem to have gone the way of the wind too 
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