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[*] posted on 16-4-2004 at 12:50 PM
hehehheeh



i wanna see em go head to head...

teddy bear v inspector gadget

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nah nah don't turn on me please!! youse are both sick ay




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[*] posted on 16-4-2004 at 01:29 PM


Hey gerling,

dont you think me and Michael would be a good enough show, that sucks.

NEXT!




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[*] posted on 16-4-2004 at 06:22 PM


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Originally posted by EVERYONE HERE




Like I said...


alright.

[Edited on 19-4-2004 by Stealth Magazine]
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[*] posted on 16-4-2004 at 06:25 PM


but seriously, Size 13 rules!
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[*] posted on 17-4-2004 at 12:33 AM


Geez louise people, stop having a cry. If the aim of the article was to give an in-depth analysis of hip hop to the uninitiated, then you can get angry at the guy. If the article hindered the progress of aussie hip hop in any way, then get angry.

At least he had a go at trying something new and had the decency to point out his own ignorance (quote:I half expected a class of sullen introverts - alienated kids with bad attitude. The reality was quite different). It was a light-hearted article about an over-the-hill white dude's experience as he delved into the realm of hip hop. Get over it - he never claimed to be an expert and he did not disrespect hip hop.

Maybe y'all should stop getting so emotional and find your sense of humour again.:cool:
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[*] posted on 17-4-2004 at 12:42 AM
This message is not from me...



you guys are sad!theres more to life than hip hop articles written by faggot white guys such as yourselves!you batty boy,have nothing in life but wack rhyme, yr 10 drop out muthafuckas
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[*] posted on 17-4-2004 at 02:55 PM
Reply to that last message



1. I didn't drop out in Year 10
2. I couldn't give a f*ck about wack rhymes,
every moment of my life is lived, like I'm going
to die tommorrow.
3. Who are you posting under someone elses
name.
4.Eight years I've spent obsessed
over Hip Hop culture and good music
in general and doing things rather than posting
GUTLESS messages on boards. I don't
know you because you haven't posted your name.
Secondly you don't know me from a bar of soap.
You probably have f*ck all knowledge and
are ignorant because you choose to think
you're mighty, tell me what you've done and
don't give me this shit that you're too good.

I'm sure everyone would like to know.

Jennifer why do we take this so seriously
because like I said before it takes over your
whole life. If you think that's sad then whatever.

I could go on but I have a life outside of message
boards!!!!

Hey I'm seeing Bus 174 Tommorrow, should I be
laughing at police brutality in South America as well.
Cause that's so hilarious to me...NOT!


[Edited on 17-4-2004 by Size 13]
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[*] posted on 18-4-2004 at 02:28 PM


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Originally posted by ktpure
Great to feel the warmth from the fire in your bellies.




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[*] posted on 18-4-2004 at 07:54 PM


Look everyone, there goes Jen and her gutless friends.
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"crack and bitches were off"
Yep, I just said it.

Jennifer look what your relo's, Sound Unlimited Pussy, did for hip hop in Australia, set it back 10years and played the stereotype role. Didn't your gay arse cousin wear fake rasta dreds? what a fucken looser.

You picked a real bad day to f*ck around.:mad:




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[*] posted on 19-4-2004 at 04:18 PM
My point exactly.



From the responses I've got, looks like you still haven't finished crying yet. I never said that you're a loser if hip hop is your livelihood - I give you all my respect. What I was amused at was the fact that some of the responses to the article were a little overreactive. Fair enough if that article was enough to make your blood boil, but it seems as though you ripped into him without giving any concession to the guy who wrote it. Criticising him for his ignorance of hip hop is stating the obvious. He admits his limited and cliched knowledge of hip hop in the first paragraph (Maya disciplines him for his use of "Yo";). Him writing about his experience in the local hip hop scene at least lets readers who dont know yet that there is one alive and kicking and that there are a lot of talented Australian emcees around.

By the way Claimin True....who the f*ck are you? Fake rasta dreads...wow, I'm so hurt. Tell me the specifics of how they set back the Aussie hip hop scene 10 years and then I might actual think you are smarter than a dead pigeon. Maybe if you listened to their lyrics, you would hear them speak about being proud to be aussie, they have songs about the sad state of our Koori people, they have songs about calling for peace. They may have been stereotype in some aspects (I don't know cause I was about 10 years old), but at least their music was funky and made people aware that hip hop was not just something you could get from the US of A.

And Size 13, what has South American police brutality got to do with the price of cheese?

Oh yeah, J-Wess rules.:D
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[*] posted on 19-4-2004 at 04:29 PM


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Fake rasta dreads...wow, I'm so hurt

Sorry you are hurt, the rest of the Hip Hop community in Australia was embarrassed.




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[*] posted on 19-4-2004 at 04:39 PM


I asked for specifics. Anyway, I'm not here to defend them - say it to their face and not to me.
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[*] posted on 19-4-2004 at 04:42 PM


Thats fine. I was going to take that last message back but you beat me to the punch. I'm sorry if I have ever upset anyone with ANY of my posts ever.



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[*] posted on 19-4-2004 at 05:03 PM
i've taken this offensive post off.....



[Edited on 6-5-2004 by jennifer]
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[*] posted on 19-4-2004 at 05:07 PM


I wasnt hurt, so no worries claimin true.;)
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[*] posted on 19-4-2004 at 06:06 PM


Those Jennifer posts are the first aggressive and down right stupid posts to be recorded here yet!

I hope they go away....soon.
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[*] posted on 19-4-2004 at 06:44 PM


Jennifer,
if that is your attitude & you are the one who liked the article...well that pretty much sums it up for me.

Settle petal.
Defend the journo by all means, but what we have on this board are people who are just passionate about thier culture. We don't have access to widespread media like the SMH & if we lie back & don't say anything, then we are just as guilty as he (Richard Jinman) is of stereotypying & perpetrating a fraud.
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[*] posted on 19-4-2004 at 10:48 PM


I'm with Jennifer and Michael.
A little information in an amusing package is just the thing for some of us.
I've read a whole book by a non-cycling fan of the Tour de France who rode round France just for a bit of a lark. And I fucking loved it.
Maybe if the article was in Stealth I might give a shit but not a major newspaper cos it ain't aimed at hip hop heads.

[Edited on 19-4-2004 by badbreath]
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[*] posted on 20-4-2004 at 03:39 PM
fair enough



i just think it's sad that something as rich and testured as hip hop continually gets repeditive, facile coverage by the mainstream media. why should we be all introverted and say 'well, I KNOW what the truth is, and f*ck everyone else.'?? if it wasn't for people turning ME onto hip hop, i wouldn't have found it when i did, and i wouldnt have developed such a love of it. why not show people outisde our culture how amazing we can be-- while we might not convert them, its always good to get ppl thinking...



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[*] posted on 20-4-2004 at 07:54 PM


from KTpure
"i guess many SMH readers would consider Graff "artists" criminals..."

werd...Leo Schofield (art wanker) wrote for the SMH for many years and ran a relentless anti-graffitti campaign. the millions that the SRA has spent since the olympics buffing everything probably owe something to his rantings. he was pissed off because some "sullen introverts" were painting their "low art" on his properties (awww...)

remember this is the paper that publishes the private schools guide - to most of their target readership, hip hop is something that their kids do, like taking ecstasy or sending sms.

having said that, the article was a fucked idea in the first place, offensive and ignorant all at the same time. i'm not saying it was supposed to be investigative journalism, but it did nothing to change incorrect perceptions of the subject matter, except perhaps that MCing is something any fool can do.

if only he'd entered a battle instead of crashing a workshop for teenagers.
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[*] posted on 26-4-2004 at 10:39 PM


just read it again.

could this ever cause offence?

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The idea of becoming a rapper seemed crazy at first. But, really, how hard could it be? You don't need to sing a note, the rhymes are rudimentary and the grammar's terrible ("So come give me a hug if you into getting rubbed," raps 50 Cent on In Da Club).


Yeah. Guess so.
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[*] posted on 5-5-2004 at 01:04 PM
Reply from Richard Jinman



"Hi, been reading the postings on the site with interest (and occasional alarm!) and realised I appear to have upset a few people with Hip-Hop Odyssey. There's a few points I'd like to make (and please feel free to post this letter on the site)


1) The article is supposed to be amusing. It was never supposed to be an in-depth piece on hip-hop and I assumed that was clear from the first line.

2) It was not aimed at an audience who are knowledgable about hip-hop. Having said that, I think you'll find that hundreds, possibly thousands of people who know absolutely nothing about the culture were given a taste of it - albeit at a mainstream, relatively superficial level - by the piece.

3) My intention was not to disrespect hip-hop or anyone involved in the scene. Old fart I may be (and hopefully I established my old fart credentials quite well) but I do actually enjoy the diverse hip-hop I hear, mostly on FBI. I'm quite aware that artists such as 50 cent are utterly commercial and just the tip of a diverse culture. I'm also quite aware that many people in the scene consider fiddy's music pop rather than hip-hop.

4) Did I reinforce prejudices about hip-hop? Obviously, I hope not. What I was trying to do was get behind a mainstream perception of the form - the bling, babes ethos - reinforced by endless video clip shows and suggest there was a far more creative and interesting culture alive and kicking in Australia.

Anyway, I'll leave it there. I notice a few people suggested sending me threads by way of protest. I'd certainly encourage that kind of feedback, but it's probably easier to just email me at rjinman@smh.com.au

Look forward to hearing from you.
All the best,
Richard Jinman"




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[*] posted on 8-5-2004 at 05:15 PM


the sky is blue:D



It don’t matter that I flow sick,
glow sticks is the best come back I get from these pricks that blow dicks
youll need an ambulance from this avalanche when the snow hits
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[*] posted on 9-5-2004 at 09:07 PM


Some great opinions.

Nice line in the 4th paragraph too,
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Mumbled by a nervous 40-year-old man with an accent shaped by a DECENT ENGLISH SCHOOL.
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I'm glad Richard replied to the topic. Its good to voice an opinion. You are often heard!

[Edited on 9-5-2004 by Joe J]




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[*] posted on 11-5-2004 at 04:15 PM


for god sake people get a sense of humour, who cares if he was making jokes about hip hop, he was taking the piss out of himself and the article was light and amusing. Learn to not take everything so seriously, he was being sincere in his approach, he wasnt trying to upset anyone or stereotype stuff.
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